Pope Francis had wanted to enter the United States by walking across the Mexican border.  The White House said no.  So he arrived in the U-S by way of Cuba.  Either entrance, according to journalist and author John Thavis told KSFR's Dave Marash on HERE AND THERE, would have been typical of a Pope who is careful to make his every public appearance exemplary of how the leader of the Catholic Church and all of its followers should act.

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